This is the topic i am debating in my debate class, and i was wondering if anybody here had any ideas on how best to argue affirmative on this one, or if anybody had any opinions they wanted to voice, if so..heres the place.

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Is it morally permissible to kill one innocent person to save the lives on more innocent people.

This is the topic i am debating in my debate class, and i was wondering if anybody here had any ideas on how best to argue affirmative on this one, or if anybody had any opinions they wanted to voice, if so..heres the place.

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God says don't kill people

atheists say killing is neither moral or immoral

you decide

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Is it morally permissible to kill one innocent person to save the lives on more innocent people.

This is the topic i am debating in my debate class, and i was wondering if anybody here had any ideas on how best to argue affirmative on this one, or if anybody had any opinions they wanted to voice, if so..heres the place.

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Quote: from IanG at 8:41 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

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Is it morally permissible to kill one innocent person to save the lives on more innocent people.

This is the topic i am debating in my debate class, and i was wondering if anybody here had any ideas on how best to argue affirmative on this one, or if anybody had any opinions they wanted to voice, if so..heres the place.

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God says don't kill people  

atheists say killing is neither moral or immoral  

you decide

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God said not to murder, didnt say not to kill.
Atheists arent sure on this topic.
This is a horrid sterotype..but..thats how it goes with religion.

Post edited at 8:45 pm on Nov. 20, 2008 by IanG

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"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions,
their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."-Oscar Wild

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Quote: from IanG at 8:41 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

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Is it morally permissible to kill one innocent person to save the lives on more innocent people.  

 This is the topic i am debating in my debate class, and i was wondering if anybody here had any ideas on how best to argue affirmative on this one, or if anybody had any opinions they wanted to voice, if so..heres the place.

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God says don't kill people

atheists say killing is neither moral or immoral

you decide

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what the hell athiest says that? we have morals even if we dont have a religion you prick. i say kill the person though. whats one life wieghed agaisnt two. i know reasoning behind this, that he deserves to live that you would be destroying his life, that he is a person. well so are the people you are trying to save. not killing him would kill all those other people. so unless you can Kill all those other people youself to save that one dont tell me you wouldnt make that same sacrifice.

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those who martch in rank and file have my contempt
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Quote: from ElArte at 8:42 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

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Quote: from IanG at 8:41 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

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Is it morally permissible to kill one innocent person to save the lives on more innocent people.  

 This is the topic i am debating in my debate class, and i was wondering if anybody here had any ideas on how best to argue affirmative on this one, or if anybody had any opinions they wanted to voice, if so..heres the place.

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God says don't kill people

atheists say killing is neither moral or immoral

you decide

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God said not to murder, didnt say not to kill.
Atheists arent sure on this topic.
This is a horrid sterotype..but..thats how it goes with religion.

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atheists say nothing can be proved moral or immoral.

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my last.fm page --- good music!
last.fm/user/ElArte8723

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Quote: from ElArte at 8:42 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

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Quote: from IanG at 8:41 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

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Is it morally permissible to kill one innocent person to save the lives on more innocent people.

  This is the topic i am debating in my debate class, and i was wondering if anybody here had any ideas on how best to argue affirmative on this one, or if anybody had any opinions they wanted to voice, if so..heres the place.

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 God says don't kill people  

 atheists say killing is neither moral or immoral  

 you decide

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what the hell athiest says that? we have morals even if we dont have a religion you prick. i say kill the person though. whats one life wieghed agaisnt two. i know reasoning behind this, that he deserves to live that you would be destroying his life, that he is a person. well so are the people you are trying to save. not killing him would kill all those other people. so unless you can Kill all those other people youself to save that one dont tell me you wouldnt make that same sacrifice.

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He wasnt trying to insult Atheists, he was stating a sterotype as i mentioned in my post. The stereotypical atheist isnt sure, or more..some are for it, some are not. He didnt say Atheist are evil killers. Relax.

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"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions,
their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."-Oscar Wild

but being that i have not faced this scenerio and hopefully never will, i feel an impulse to say that i could kill one innocent person to save many innocent people.

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insanity is what keeps me sane

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Quote: from IanG at 8:43 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

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Quote: from ElArte at 8:42 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

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Quote: from IanG at 8:41 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

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Is it morally permissible to kill one innocent person to save the lives on more innocent people.  

This is the topic i am debating in my debate class, and i was wondering if anybody here had any ideas on how best to argue affirmative on this one, or if anybody had any opinions they wanted to voice, if so..heres the place.

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God says don't kill people

atheists say killing is neither moral or immoral

you decide

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God said not to murder, didnt say not to kill.
Atheists arent sure on this topic.
This is a horrid sterotype..but..thats how it goes with religion.

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some versions of the Bible say "do not kill" and some say "do not murder".

atheists say nothing can be proved moral or immoral.

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The literal tanslation would be 'do not kill', but the thing is..that was said in the Old Testement, and that was still during the time God was deliberatly ordering the execution of those that went directly against him. And whatever you believe, you have to awknowledge that the writers of the Bible werent stupid enough to contradict themselves on the next page, or ever really. So it would be logical to assume that the translation(which is also considered accurate by The KJV Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon) 'Do not Murder' is the more accurate translation.

Post edited at 8:55 pm on Nov. 20, 2008 by IanG

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"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions,
their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."-Oscar Wild

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Quote: from IanG at 8:41 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

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Is it morally permissible to kill one innocent person to save the lives on more innocent people.  

 This is the topic i am debating in my debate class, and i was wondering if anybody here had any ideas on how best to argue affirmative on this one, or if anybody had any opinions they wanted to voice, if so..heres the place.

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God says don't kill people

atheists say killing is neither moral or immoral

you decide

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Atheists are people who do not believe in gods. There's nothing more to the definition. Some of us still believe that there are objective means to determine the moral value of an action.

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Quote: from ElArte at 8:42 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

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Quote: from IanG at 8:41 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

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Is it morally permissible to kill one innocent person to save the lives on more innocent people.

  This is the topic i am debating in my debate class, and i was wondering if anybody here had any ideas on how best to argue affirmative on this one, or if anybody had any opinions they wanted to voice, if so..heres the place.

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 God says don't kill people  

 atheists say killing is neither moral or immoral  

 you decide

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What the fuck are you talking about?

Atheists are people who do not believe in gods. There's nothing more to the definition. Some of us still believe that there are objective means to determine the moral value of an action.

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the keyword here is: believe

you cannot prove that the moral value itself is objective or can you?

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my last.fm page --- good music!
last.fm/user/ElArte8723

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Quote: from Mediocre at 8:58 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

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Quote: from ElArte at 8:42 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

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Quote: from IanG at 8:41 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

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Is it morally permissible to kill one innocent person to save the lives on more innocent people.    

  This is the topic i am debating in my debate class, and i was wondering if anybody here had any ideas on how best to argue affirmative on this one, or if anybody had any opinions they wanted to voice, if so..heres the place.

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  God says don't kill people

  atheists say killing is neither moral or immoral

  you decide

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 What the fuck are you talking about?  

 Atheists are people who do not believe in gods. There's nothing more to the definition. Some of us still believe that there are objective means to determine the moral value of an action.

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the keyword here is: believe

you cannot prove that the moral value itself is objective or can you?

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